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DocWells
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30/03/2005 : 23:25:38      reply with quote


See:
www.freewebs.com/silsden/
or
www.TheStreetsofSilsden.co.uk

The above site has no political affiliation.
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alan
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31/03/2005 : 08:58:34      reply with quote


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DocWells is to be commended in taking up the fight of Spencer Avenue.
As he quite rightly states Beryl Simister, supported by Anne Cryer, valiantly fought the battle of the unadopted road with Bradford Metropolitan Council but was stone walled with the standard unadopted road response.
Silsden Town Council also supported the fight and also tried other various options such as the Co-Op, without success.
This road is a significant access road in Silsden and it is a continuing disgrace that Bradford refuse to do anything about it.
How can Bradford justify spending many thousands of pounds on road improvements and traffic calming measures elsewhere in Bradford District whilst allowing this dangerous situation to continue?
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Rach227
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02/04/2005 : 13:39:28      reply with quote


I totally agree Silsden's streets should be made much sfaer then they are at this apparent moment
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jinjinho
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30/06/2005 : 18:48:07      reply with quote


yeh think abuot it you wouldn't want to be walking down, say... skipton road and fall over a snail and be mugged by people hiding in a bush wud you??
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mystery person
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10/07/2005 : 15:30:47      reply with quote



well come to think about it i wouldn't mind if it was elliot street.
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frankly frank
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30/10/2005 : 20:22:21      reply with quote


The state of the pavements of unadopted Spencer Avenue and lower Hillcrest Avenue are truly a disgrace on the town, and a danger to pedestrians.

The carriageways provide access to significant residential areas, and Keighley Planning Department should have insisted that the pavements be brought up to standard as planning gain when Skipton Properties built their new development some ten years ago.

Surely now the local UDC Conservative Craven Ward Councillors have contingency funds such that they could collectively allocate to a 'one off' solution to these dangerous pavements. It would be a worthy contribution to the Ward from its public representatives.

Silsden Town Council could also consider using their statutory powers to levy a one off small precept on the local rates as a gesture to contribute to any funding.
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Grianan
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01/11/2005 : 20:38:32      reply with quote


Would a question about this be a good subject for a poll on this site?
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Peter
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02/11/2005 : 07:44:29      reply with quote


A good idea, but to make a survey I need some questions.

Please send the questions you would like to be asked to www.silsden.net/about/email.shtm

If you want the survey to be of use you have to suggest a series of options. For the topic of the maintenance of Spencer Avenue and Hillcrest Avenue you should first look at www.freewebs.com/silsden/
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grandad
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02/11/2005 : 19:29:59      reply with quote


Why should I have to pay for the repair of someone elses road? WhenI bought my house included in the price was a sum for the cost of building the road to the required standard.
Previously I used to live on an unadopted road which the council decided should be brought up to adoptable standard, Myself and everone who lived on the road had to pay to have this work done.
Let the owners of these roads pay just the same as I have had to do twice.
I you get hurt walking alone one of these highways sue the householder it is their responsability.
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mallinson
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18/12/2005 : 16:54:29      reply with quote


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posted by alan
DocWells is to be commended in taking up the fight of Spencer Avenue.
As he quite rightly states Beryl Simister, supported by Anne Cryer, valiantly fought the battle of the unadopted road with Bradford Metropolitan Council but was stone walled with the standard unadopted road response.
Silsden Town Council also supported the fight and also tried other various options such as the Co-Op, without success.
This road is a significant access road in Silsden and it is a continuing disgrace that Bradford refuse to do anything about it.
How can Bradford justify spending many thousands of pounds on road improvements and traffic calming measures elsewhere in Bradford District whilst allowing this dangerous situation to continue?

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mallinson
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18/12/2005 : 17:06:45      reply with quote


As one of the district councillors for the Craven area i can assure members of this forum that i have looked in to the whole issue of unadopted roads. I have debated this at environment scrutiny in Bradford and with the portfolio holder for the environment. Bradford as a district has more unadopted roads than many other authorities and has argued this with other MP's to get funding support from government to put this right. CBMDC has in place a procedure for residents to put these roads back to an adoptable standard if they want to pay.
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alan
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18/12/2005 : 20:09:13      reply with quote


Welcome to the forum councillor.
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Fred
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19/12/2005 : 14:00:27      reply with quote


Councillor Mallinson may be looking at all the unadopted roads in Bradmet but how does this help the resident of Hillcrest Avenue which has, I would suggest, a rather special case. I don't suppose all the roads leading off Hillcrest Avenue are unadopted so as this is the access road to all the properties beyond, perhaps the road should be deemed adoted by default.

Perhaps the residents of Hillcreast Road should charge a toll for all that require access to the roads/residents beyond - why should they pay to repair a road and pavement which has been brought into disrepair through no fault of themselves?

The storm water drain at the end of Hillcreast Avenue (by Bell Square) has been blocked for years and water regulary bubbles out of the manhole cover and runs down and across the road to drain into the beck. The drain is obviously blocked under Bridge Street but because the manhole cover is on Hillcrest Avenue all authorities pass the buck and expect the residents of the road to foot the bill.



Obviously nobody want to pay to repair the road perhaps the solution is to write to our MP. This is really easy to do ..... just use this link www.locata.co.uk/commons/
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mallinson
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20/12/2005 : 23:51:21      reply with quote


When you say the word "priority" where do you begin? There are unadopted roads that prevent dissabled people from leaving thier homes safley, there are roads that lead to schools that mean children have to walk through puddles to get there. There are roads that are very long with only a few properties on them and the owners can not afford to pay. Please give me a sensible solution and i will fight your corner. The fact is that people KNOW that they are buying a house at a reduced value and reduced council tax because of the condition of the road. For many years people have had that luxury and now cry the poor tale. It would be unjust to have the rest of the tax payers bail them out. I am doing what i can to find a way of getting Silsdens roads at least brought up to a safer standard than they are now.
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mallinson
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20/12/2005 : 23:55:46      reply with quote


quote
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Welcome to the forum councillor.
Thanks for the welcome. Judging by some of the stories a district councillor is not always welcome, especially a Tory one !!
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alan
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21/12/2005 : 07:46:54      reply with quote


Well "mallinson", as one of those rare councillors that obviously have Silsden at heart, take the trouble to attend Town Council meetings, and are prepared to stand your corner for the Town you are more than welcome to this forum, Tory, or not.

But don't let that go to your head happy :) we may nip at your ankles from time to time!
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alan
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21/12/2005 : 16:15:11      reply with quote


Just WHO is responsible for Hillcrest Avenue?

Is the Co-op partly responsible?

Why wasn't it made a condition of planning when the Co-op was built that they contributed to bringing this road up to adoptable standard?

Why are the pavings so damaged to Spencer Avenue and Hillcrest? Is it just lack of maintenance or damage by wagons, construction traffic, delivery traffic, etc?
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grandad
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23/12/2005 : 19:39:28      reply with quote


the land owners are responsible for the bit of land outside their property. when the new co-op was built the then parish council insisted that a section 106 was put in place to make them bring the roads bounding the store up to adoptable standards, but bradfoed council never bothered to get the co-op to sign it so when the store was finished they simply said no. once again the incompetence of bradford has let the towns folk of silsden down. i was infoemed many years ago that the then new roads up spencer ave were damaged by tanks during the war.
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alan
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29/12/2005 : 20:22:32      reply with quote


A Quote from the T&A -

Tax collectors gathered nearly £4 million surplus in Bradford this year, and now council chiefs are under pressure to reveal how they will spend it.

We have an idea Councillor Mallinson - how about some on unadopted roads in Silsden?
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mallinson
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06/01/2006 : 21:41:48      reply with quote


Happy New Year to everyone.
Let me put my priorities in order for the record.
Firstly, i am a "local" councillor who loves the area to which i have been ellected and respect the position to which i have been ellected.
Secondly, i am a district councillor which means that i also have to acknowlwdge that Brd as a whole has a number of problems that need adressing rather than ignoring. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to allocate sufficient funds to bring all roads up to adoptable standards. Realisticaly this will not happen, when education, extra care for the elderly and abused children all become a greater priority. As for attending town council meetings, i do go as many times as i can and i have broad shoulders. (they come with the job !)
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DocWells
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13/01/2006 : 19:15:00      reply with quote


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In reply to the comment from 'Grandad' about the tanks damaging Spenser Avenue, my understanding is that the Ministry of Defence (War Office) made funds avaiable to the local council, in compensation, to repair Spencer Avenue. These repairs were never made. The repairs are therefore
still outstanding!!!

In 2001, it was stated in a Report to Bradford's Executive Committee, that Spencer Avenue was the sole access to significantly more houses in adopted roads than any other unadopted road in the Bradford area. In this respect Spencer Avenue is unique.

Why has the BMDC not applied for EEC funding towards the adoption of streets as in previous years? MEPs have replied to my e-mails about this but not BMDC members! Other councils are adopting roads, even in former mining areas. Why not the BMDC?

The BMDC are a little too congratulatory about their achievements..even using national TV air time to express such views when being intervied about the death of a policewoman!

It is interesting that Councillor Mallinson has appeared in this forum. I did not detect any interest when I e-mailed him last year. He never bothered to reply. It is all a little too easy to blame the (Labour) Government for a lack of funding.

Beryl Simister was treated atrociosly during her campaign. Some of the comments made in this forum, while understandable in places, show a lack of care and understanding which is quite deplorable.

The BMDC has a resposibility of care towards those that fall within its domain.

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